American Psycho

I am getting moderate amount of signups to a cam girl recruiting site but almost none actually start working on cam.

wtf am i missing!!?

i do all the needed support and help etc lots of time wasted.

are all these girls just clueless to actually get / do it?
too shy or nervous?

the money is there to be made on the major platforms , its just that they are not starting or continuing.

if anyone can post useful info that helps me get more % active i will send you a gift of your choice under $500!
AND you would be doing an act of kindness that may prevent me from jumping off a bridge due to all the time I'm wasting on these girls.

incredibleworkethic

Interested in this conversation.

Who pays lifetime referral?

clickity click

maybe they sign up again and cut out the middle man?

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bongacams.com... 5% if you sign up as a studio...

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Chaturbate $50 per broadcaster

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You are lucky if 1 in 10 make it and that's after a lot of possibles punk out on you.

ianmoone332000

Someone signed up and went on to net me the $50 referrer broadcast fee on chaturbate today. I dont promote as looking for camgirls etc so guess i just got lucky

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tip the girls (anonymously) while they're starting out to build up their confidence/motivation? lol no clue if this would be ok w/ affiliate programs

GL, after interacting with some cam girls its obvious why most don't work out hahah

American Psycho

Im getting more like 1:100 if that

JSWENSON

They've always been terribly hard to deal with and the flakiest of all flakes.

ErectMedia

They can work a pole at a strip club and take home many hundos a night along with any side action. The idea that they can stay at home and work should appeal to them since they just play with their pussy instead of grinding on a fat ass dude but most don't have the patience/work ethic for the time it takes to build up a profitable audience. Everytime I go to my buddies strip club at least one girl asks me about camming and that's basically what I tell them. Put the work in=slow build to mad profit but most since no following don't make as much as the pole the first few times and quit. I've turned away plenty cause I know how 90% of them will end up=me wasting my time on a flake.

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Man, and I thought dealing with solo models for solo girl sites was a hassle. LOL

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Only offer that solid advice after you get a blowjob.

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Yes that's it. Who run a cam site knows it well

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my ratio on refering webcam girls is more like 1:56 signups !

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We pay 5% lifetime referral.

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lezinterracial

Do you offer any good tips on your recruiting site? Sometimes a youtube video may do well, Since most people don't want to take the time to read.

Make a vid on how to sign up. Make a vid of how the girls should act and embed them on your site.

I notice the ones that do real well are 1. hot, 2. really nice and all smiles (Think Disney). If the models have a lot of guys talking, Silence the guys that have don't have money. Force them to pay if they want to talk to such a lovely lady. I notice the people with no money talk the most and flood the chat to get attention. Give ideas for shows, Play video games or do naked yoga or naked twister(I would like to see this). Encourage them to watch popular cam girls and see what they are doing.

Tell the girls to have fun and build a Girl Friend Experience. Have the guys leave the show feeling good about forking over $50 to a girl they will never meet in person. Everybody wins this way.

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American Psycho

getting model signups is not the issue, getting the girls that do signup to be active is the issue.

get a decent amount of new models, but almost none are active even with quality help / training / support....

RyuLion

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romeo22

Try giving so extra $

iFriends

Do you help them get their accounts in order? I know you said you spend lots of time with help/support; sometimes doing things on the models' behalf helps get them in gear, because it's one less thing they have to do.

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We run a cam site and actively recruit girls. The girls from North America are the worst. Sign up, go through all the steps of getting them accounts, walk them through scanning IDs, putting them on the Calendar etc then they never show up. Not sure if it has to do with that generation (18-24) but I see the entitled attitude with my son and all his friends as well. They like the idea of making money but when it comes time to work for it they get sick of it real fast.

The EU girls I have had better success with and we babysit way less.

Either way it sucks when I get a call at 2am with a girl crying on the phone saying she just had an abortion and doesn't know who to talk to. Ugh.....

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Barry-xlovecam

If you are not a cam site operator or someone with inside access to recruiting cam models you will not do very well as a professional.

We spend a lot of time and effort chasing model registrations trying to get the model started out and it's not easy. The site receiving the application has a lot of information that the model has submitted to use in helping her get started -- what do you have? Why should you succeed where you are not a broadcast cam site? How many full time support staff do you pay a salary to and can make new model support part of their job?

If you are going to put up a 'paper tiger SEO site' with no active participation in actual broadcast, I would suggest you look for start up cam sites that will pay you $10.00 a lead -- you will make more money that way

Barry-xlovecam

Maybe, they realize friends and family members are porn dogs and will see them spreading their legs on cam? Then they ''chicken'' out.

iFriends

^ yes, some might get a wild idea suddenly, then realize they aren't ready to go for it.

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One of the things we offer for girls is the option to geo block users. So if a girl is from MN, we can have her cam blocked from MN members.

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I think I can help you with this, PM me

Barry-xlovecam

Doesn't everyone have blocking like for 10 years now?

Women might want money but when it comes so modesty most change their minds. Fact of life.

First of all, in this business you are ''marked for life.'' While what we do may be more acceptable than it was 20 years ago -- it still has a stigma to it in ''polite society.'' I have become used to it over the years, since 2001, when I started -- I decided I didn't give a fuck what they thought -- a lot of cam girls cannot decide that -- and I won't push them to -- most are 20 or so and have a lot of life ahead of them.

We do well with the studios in Eastern Europe because of those counties lack of money making opportunities and more liberal sexual attitudes than those in the USA. This is not to say there are not some awesome cam girls that live in the USA, Canada and especially Australia -- lots of hotties there.

I am an old man now, and unlike Donald Trump, I have no illusions of running for president. With my background on record most reputable businesses in the public eye or politicians won't deal directly with me. That is what you trade off to make money in this business. And at this point in my life I could care less.

aka123

How anyone even knows about your background? If you put up another company; for example "Barry's pluming and roof", how will anyone know about your other businesses and why would they even care?

For example here in Finland one politician did send hundreds of text messages to some stripper or whatever she is. It was more like just a joke in the public eye, though he did step aside for a moment for more like just sending hundreds of text messages with government's mobile phone and also during work time.

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Of course, you however were the one that brought up the friends and family seeing them on cam.

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iFriends

Yes, despite block zones, content tends to leak

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JSWENSON

Doesn't help when her pics and vids are uploaded all over the net.

BigFurry

Geo-blocking sounds great, but what about affiliates? XML feeds, API data?

It's a fantasy really, once you put nudes on the net, someone will recognize you sooner or later. It's the inconvenient fact that noone wants to acknowledge.

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RyuLion

That doesn't work, they will always want more $$ but rarely change..

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pimpmaster9000

let me give you some advice...quit if you do not want to become a misogynist like me

women do not like to work...

I know a guy who used to run a pissing website, he always got more models to piss on then I could recruit...he paid them, I shit you not, 50$ to piss in their mouth but these same girls he sent me would quit work for 100$/day for me

now don't get me wrong, the models really like me and they really like when I tell them they can easily make 100$/day with just stripping...no pissing or anything LOL...out of 100 models I have recruited I have 10 left...why? well the answer to this question was so simple it took me years to believe:

getting pissed on is like 2 minutes work for 50$...making 50$ on a cam site is 2-3 hours work

empirical evidence says: work is worse to most of them than a random dude pissing in their mouth

(he sent me maybe 20 models total but the same principle stands true for the great majority of them)

unfortunately this catharsis was useless for me, I enjoy the stroke to my ego that is a full wallet of pimp money more than the pain of being reminded over and over again...the pain was at first like holding a cup of water, no problem for 10 minutes...but if you want to hold the cup for an hour then it starts to hurt...the cup does not get heavier but your arm gets tired....now imagine holding the cup up all day...this is a big fucking problem....now imagine holding it for years

want to know real pain? the best model I ever had made a consistent 300$/day for months, then she realised she does not like work and she married a guy who delivers fired chicken in a 3rd world country

dude you are not doing anything wrong...its not you its them

I can not help myself I keep coming back to hold that fucking cup, but save yourself while you still can...it hurts to succeed and then realize you have in fact failed...save your soul!

ignorance is sometimes truly bliss...

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Offer them an active bonus that increases evertime they work, a rewards program. Lots of girls won't refuse lucrative pay plus free stuff

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The margins on cams are already razor thin with affiliates clearing as much or more money than the program does.

Barry-xlovecam

On an affiliate sale we pay 50% to the model and 30% to the affiliate = 80%

Affiliates get a generous split of the profits without the liability for operational and development costs. The affiliate's cost is only in the marketing and SEO activities of a website he owns to get the referrals to send us and other sponsors.

We bear the hosting expense of our white label products and get no benefit from any branding.

So yeah, a smart affiliate, with minimal investment, can make the lion's share of the profit from his sales. We, as a cam broadcast site, make money on our own house sales mainly and spend a lot on AdWords and ad buying to be constantly adding new customers. Customer churn (attrition) is a problem for a cam site as well as its affiliates. Our customers go into the same ''black hole'' that affiliates are always whining about -- we get shaved too by customer churn but we accept that that is part of the business.

Jet Set Cat

Bump for an interesting thread and that I'm too tired to read through it now.

Vacares

Would supplying the cam girl with traffic act as any sort of incentive to get her started? Let's say that as a cam girl recruiter, you also had a large supply of your own cam traffic. You could direct some of that traffic to your cam girl to help her gain exposure and earn more, assuming she can at least get the traffic spending money.

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interesting thread

Barry-xlovecam

I don't think the old insurance company mantra: "hire in masses, train them in classes and keep on their asses" will excel in this business. Instilling a work ethic, and more importantly; to develop a marketing drive in a cam girl's attitude is what brings success to many models. "I wanna be a 'star' and drive a new BMW (before my tits sag :P)."

I tried to get studios involved in something along similar ideas -- marketing knowledge was the stumbling block with the studios -- don't get me wrong some do this but it is generic-- their models are on multiple cam sites. That is allowed and we make concessions toward this arrangement. However, the deal has to be exclusive promotion to our website exclusively for me to be proactive -- I can only spent time, effort and money promoting XloveCam and associated web properties -- that is a given.

That is one way... Using a camgirl blog network is another way get more targeted traffic to the model's room. I have a not-so-current (prototype - lightbox) blog network that could be used by a recruiter's models -- we developed the software network a few years ago. If someone has good conections or seo traffic for models we might make them an interesting offer . Recruiter -blogmaster?

If you think you are that person IM me or e-mail: b.grayxlovecam.com with a proposal that makes sense ...

Sly

We've been building a system that would tie in great with what you just mentioned. Right now I only promote Streamate but would love to add an additional WebCam network to the mix. I'm going to add you to my Skype and will contact you when ready.

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Perhaps you say this because you worked with female models. I am sure boys also do not like to work

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ClickCash does. We pay a lifetime revshare (min 20%) for users you recruit, and we do also offer a lifetime revshare for model recruits + $100 bonus once the model hits 120 hours.

But yes, getting models to "stick" can be hard. The biggest barrier to entry really is the age documentation process for some of them - which is why iFriends has been working to streamline that process and get models online asap. After that, it's all about traffic. That's why we recommend to our affiliates that they drive traffic directly to the models they recruit. Those RevShare percentages add up!

~Emily

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"ClickCash does. We pay a lifetime revshare (min 20%) for users you recruit, and we do also offer a lifetime revshare for model recruits + $100 bonus once the model hits 120 hours."


please tell me if im wrong, but it doesnt say anything about getting commision for the models earnings if you have recruited her/him.

it just says you get $100 (with conditions attached)


but it says

"we do also offer a lifetime revshare for model recruits"

i didnt see anything about this.

if its just $100 - its not really worth it - is it - especially considering the conversion rate etc which has been discussed.

NatalieK

I wouldn't have thought this would make a difference to their pay checks, so probably more than likely, the model has simply forgotten they signed up to the cam site or logged in for 20mins, had no joy & went to another site. A possibility

Congratulations

You could email each of the models! Talking from my own experience, some may sign up with good intentions, then forgetting the site & signing, only to continue with other sites they're already signed & making money with

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