XSAXS

I realized over the weekend that a well known (and generally well regarded) sponsor owes me nearly $700. Haven't seen a payment from them in several months -- and since they're one of my low volume sponsors, they slipped off my radar.

So I politely contacted them and asked to be paid.

The rep responded and said that all affiliate accounts are now set at a minimum $1000 payout! ...and then he promised that once I reach the new threshold I'll be paid.

(I fucking LOVE this fucking biz full of fucking lowlifes and scammers. )

FWIW... My account says (and has always said) minimum payout $50.

So... What would YOU do?

[1] Pull the links and say fuck 'em?
[2] Continue to send traffic and hope they don't raise the minimum to $10,000?
[3] Run to GFY and smear their good name?

ruff

Pull the links and name them. Why not? They changed the rules without notifying you. Fuck em and feed em beans.

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SBJ

pretty much what I was thinking!

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MetaMan

[4] Continue being a pussy. Ask other people advice on how to do my business. Dont mention any names because i need others approval because im not man enough. Wash my vagina hoping i grow a penis.

MrBottomTooth

That's absurd. Out them. If they have any shred of decency left they'll come in and explain it off as a " misunderstanding" and you'll get paid. (Then pull all links)

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$1000 minimum is fucking insane.

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plaster

Out and collect. Only reason to raise min. To over $100 is to keep the majority of money as luquid cash in bank knowing they won't need to relieve themselves of that cash for some time to come. Also indicative of a program about to close shop.

XSAXS

Awesome beat down.

Clearly I want to be paid. Right now. And I want to give these guys an opportunity to make it right. So I will withhold their name for now. We'll see how they choose to handle it.

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This has happened to me many times, it is usually a sign of bad things to come. Not always but usually.

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TheSquealer

I agree with MetaMan, the only clear choice is to ask a bunch of part timers, morons and degenerates how you should run your business. As well all know, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell and many other technology titans live and die by the questions they ask and the timeless advice they receieve on digital point, warrior forum and 4chan

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ReggieDurango

Name names.
I don't want to sign-up to program that secretly raises their minimum payout to $1000 LOL

XSAXS

No, they're not about to close shop. They've been around forever. And they have some interesting new-ish programs.

Evidently they just don't give a shit about keeping 'smaller' affiliates.

It's ultimately their loss though... I was planning to switch one of my largest cam sites over to their cam property. Fuck that idea now.

Colmike9

So.. who is it?

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kane

In all honesty, I guess it would depend. If it a sponsor that takes me a while to meet their minimum I would likely keep promoting until I had enough for a payout then try another and see if I had the same results, but could get paid more often.

If the sponsor was a good earner I would keep using them and just understand I won't be getting paid until I make $1,000. It sucks that they didn't tell you, but if they have otherwise been good, I wouldn't really care.

XSAXS

Hint: Perhaps this thread, and my thoughtful decision NOT to smear them publicly will incentivize them to do the right thing and pay me immediately.

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ReggieDurango

Squealer - always so negative!

sandman!

out them!

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TeenCat

great ... and because you hope that someone who is fucking you right now to the ass will pay you in future, other affiliates working for them are now sending sales to the scammers still ... great of you ... great to hear that there is some shit, but someone dont want to tell, because he thinks all will be solved when posting about unnamed sponsor on gfy ... oh, man ... wtf ... seriously ... tell, or fuck off and dont come to cry here ...

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XSAXS

This exactly. They have a pretty good reputation, and some high-conversion properties. And I would like to work with them, but if I can't trust them with small shit (like a reasonable minimum), there's no way I'll trust them with any real traffic.

plaster

You actually can't answer that question with any legitimacy. Those that close shop do suddenly and it surprises most.

So they have a cam platform... that limits the sponsor.

It's not datinggold, it's not videosecrets, it's not webcamwiz... who's left? Who is REALLY big... is it streamate?

XSAXS

I don't owe you anything, TeenCat.

Truth is... if these guys are doing this to me, they will do it to others, and they will be exposed eventually.

TeenCat

but you are still giving the sponsor chance to collect even more money. they have raised limit from 50usd to 1000usd, and you are saying they are not going anywhere? how you can be that sure, if they are doing shitty things on the background? expose them and dont give them chance to steal more ... because this doesnt sound anything else than collect as much money as possible and run ... i would even bet, that if you make it to the 1000usd, you will have problems to collect the money anyway ... why to support someone who is playing shit with you? have luck anyway, right, you dont owe me nothing, but you could help others to not support a possible thieves ...

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TeenCat

if someone wants to raise the limit to 1000, they have to pay what have been stated in tos when you signed up, so if they had 50 and decided to make it 1000, they have to pay everyone who is over the 50, and then make official statement that payouts are raised ... not like now, blocking who knows how much money ... this is bad

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Markul

Name them. Quit being a sissy.

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plaster

not cool to name someone that most would likely use knowing they are screwing people... and an up to $1000 payout is screwing everyone... name the company!

the Shemp

You should have made a post like this:

Did you hear that "XADULT COMPANY NAME" raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

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XSAXS

No, I'm sure they aren't about to close down their network. When you hear who they are, you'll know.

They just don't care about keeping their smaller affiliates, which is a shame, because some bridges are better left unburned.

And yes, you're right. They have zero intention of paying me. Ever. Even when I hit the $1000 minimum. But we'll see if they change their minds...

You're exactly right, TeenCat. That's the way they SHOULD do it, but they clearly aren't interested in following the TOS in this matter. 2015 and it's still the Wild Wild West.

Jel

saved me some typing

XSAXS

Yep, you're right, Shemp. That's why you're the Master. Unfortunately, brevity has never been my specialty.

Perhaps I'll use your method if I don't get satisfaction. Thanks.

the Shemp

yup, or PM me the info, i'd be more than happy to post it ...

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plaster

You are actually gonna have egg on your face if you don't post the sponsor... ya know that right?

k0nr4d

This one sounds about right. You already know what you have to do and you are just wanting "approval". You've already made your decision, just follow through with it now.

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Just think how pissed you would be if you was new to the business and worked hard to get to such a threshold and then be told that the minimum is now 20 times the figure set in the terms. Really disappointing.

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Colmike9

...Since he doesn't want to post any names and it's supposedly a well known sponsor, has anyone else noticed a payout minimum to $1000?.... I only know of one that high and has always been but DR Nights is kind of an exception.

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If you wish to warn others it is your duty to name. If you just want your payment and they want their PR send them to this thread first. Someone else will pipe up and say it is happening to them too if they are a larger player.

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that sucks :\

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EddyTheDog

It's good that you can afford to hold off - However, that sort of money could hurt others here - Name them so those people can make an informed decision now...

TeenCat

btw, not talking about their previous limit was 50, and you have sitting there 700, so they didnt paid you as they should have? name the sponsor man, then send them this thread, imho that is the only small chance to get your money from them ... or, just send them this thread, they will pay you to not post the name, and all other affiliates will be still fucked by them ... simply decission imho man ...

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blackmonsters

$1000 min payout.

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Mr Pheer

I'd name them here

There have been a few times that I've had problems with sponsors and couldnt get it resolved through my rep, then I'd post it here and it was resolved within minutes.

MiamiBoyz

Assholes should pay! Britney would and so would that cocksucker Jesus

Socks

I think having *many* angry affiliates is worse for them than one semi-angry affiliate, and would get you paid faster.

pornguy

1000 is pretty high and they should work something out with you. but really you should be talking with them.

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EliteWebmaster

It's the right thing to do to warn others on the board. It's selfish on your end to not want to reveal their name "in hopes they see the thread and get scared" and pay you. If they are secretly changing their terms to you and if they are a big "well known company", think how many smaller affiliates they are basically screwing over just like they are doing to you.

You would be doing a disservice to others on the board by protecting this company. If anything, you outing them would make them pay you faster because it would damage their reputation that they are raising the minimum payout from $50 to an absurd $1000. That's a sign of shady business practice no matter how big the company is.

I had no problems outing AshleyMadison a few months back here:
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...son-shady.html
even though I promoted them and did well with them.

By outing them, you would be helping existing affiliates unaware of this new payout change and new affiliates that was thinking of promoting that program.

TheSquealer

HINT: That is simply a post hoc rationalization of your immature behavior. The way you conduct yourself reflects on you, not others. Further, if your business mattered at all to them, you wouldn't need to create a thread. Act like a business person, not a burger flipper.... Focus on productivity and goals, not stupidity, immaturity and nonsense. Few things in this life are more futile than attempting to change the behaviors of others.

XSAXS

They are on notice and the clock is ticking. We'll see how they choose to handle it.

Stay tuned.

XSAXS

Is this true? I hadn't heard this.

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