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Old 03-16-2015, 01:34 AM   #1
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Back in early 2000, I started emailing and was very successful at it, we were able to get several thousand IP's a /20 and /21 directly from Internic which allowed us to get all the spam complaints directly and get amazing throughput. Then the Can Spam Act came along and to keep from going to jail, we decided to follow the rules. It definitely hurt things a bit, but things were still pretty decent.

Besides companies like Gammae and Ynot, are there some good mainstream companies that allow you to email adult?

Even though, I started up my mailing system again and my IP space has a good reputation, I wouldn't mind trying my lists out on some other networks to see how they compare. And the reality is, with each different mailing network, some are good at getting into Gmail, while others are good at getting into Yahoo etc.. so it best not to put all your eggs in one basket.

Lastly, I am looking for more adult, dating and mainstream lists to purchase or do split deals on like Gammae, so if you know of anyone interested and/or you have your own lists, I would be willing to talk, just PM me.
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Every day I hear from people who have been using free services or main stream email services that suddenly get kicked off because they are adult. YNOT Mail don't have such issues.
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Thanks everyone for your support.

Keep in mind than when you use YNOT Mail you get me for support.... And I am pretty easy to work with.
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Keep in mind than when you use YNOT Mail you get me for support.... And I am pretty easy to work with.
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Yes. Plenty do.

YNOT is just a skinned version of Interspire last I knew, which is something you can purchase yourself without the middle man. The main difference to my understanding is that you have Rochard for support to hold your hand if you do not know how to mail at all. If you send any REAL volume, Interspire is not the best MTA and there are plenty better.

As for the other stuff you mentioned in regard to the majors/tld (aol, hotmail, gmail, etc), you are correct. Each has different rules, throttles, hourly limits, among other tweaks needed to get into the inbox. If you have a decent sized list, you will need to segment it accordingly to be effective.

Most of the adult membership and newsletters I have seen to date are mainly the majors (aol, hotmail, gmail). Meaning, most seem to use those for their porn. Each one of those is a different bag o tricks to email properly, and you should learn them. You can always go to a real ESP with clean ips and try and mail out that way, as they typically will have some level of trust from the different ISP, but, that can be pricey when you pay according to volume.

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Yes. Plenty do.

YNOT is just a skinned version of Interspire last I knew, which is something you can purchase yourself without the middle man. The main difference to my understanding is that you have Rochard for support to hold your hand if you do not know how to mail at all. If you send any REAL volume, Interspire is not the best MTA and there are plenty better.

As for the other stuff you mentioned in regard to the majors/tld (aol, hotmail, gmail, etc), you are correct. Each has different rules, throttles, hourly limits, among other tweaks needed to get into the inbox. If you have a decent sized list, you will need to segment it accordingly to be effective.

Most of the adult membership and newsletters I have seen to date are mainly the majors (aol, hotmail, gmail). Meaning, most seem to use those for their porn. Each one of those is a different bag o tricks to email properly, and you should learn them. You can always go to a real ESP with clean ips and try and mail out that way, as they typically will have some level of trust from the different ISP, but, that can be pricey when you pay according to volume.

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Yes. Plenty do.

YNOT is just a skinned version of Interspire last I knew, which is something you can purchase yourself without the middle man. The main difference to my understanding is that you have Rochard for support to hold your hand if you do not know how to mail at all. If you send any REAL volume, Interspire is not the best MTA and there are plenty better.
Anyone can purchase Interspire, install it, and blast out email blindly. In most cases you will quickly end up being blacklisted from the major ISPs, and will have little recourse in getting unlisted. You will not be able to reach inboxes, and potentially your regular pop3 email will end up in spam too.

Interspire is only the first layer of software with YNOT Mail. There is other software involved, multiple servers, upstream providers, DKIM and SPF records, conflict resolution, PLUS support.
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Thanks everyone for the input here. I am currently using Ynot and Rochard has been great.
It is important to use different mailing networks as to get better throughput into the inbox. IP's are always getting black listed and it takes some time to get them off the black list. So one day on one network you have great deliverability and the next day it dies.
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Anyone can purchase Interspire, install it, and blast out email blindly. In most cases you will quickly end up being blacklisted from the major ISPs, and will have little recourse in getting unlisted. You will not be able to reach inboxes, and potentially your regular pop3 email will end up in spam too.
There's a lot that goes into mailing that is why I was looking for other companies that allow adult besides Ynot and Gammae, that is why I started this thread. The more honest networks I can mail from the better.

I have had a few people hit me up about doing mailings for them in this space and I am open to it, but I don't want to take away business from Ynot etc.. So if you have email lists and want to try a new network with several thousand IP's let me know and we can discuss this further. Shoot an email over to admin @ intermaxx.com

If you are attending the Phoenix Forum, I will be there as well since I live in Scottsdale, AZ

I know a person mentioned Amazon SES, I have been there and done that and even though we spend over 10K a month with them it only lasted a few months. They are very protective over the IP Space, and they will not let you host your own IP's with them.
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Thanks everyone for your support.

Keep in mind than when you use YNOT Mail you get me for support.... And I am pretty easy to work with.
I had no idea!!!!! I don't think I've ever used support there but now I know =)
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All you are doing is sending bulk email in the blind. Chances are you are blacklisted all over the place.
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Yes. Plenty do.

YNOT is just a skinned version of Interspire last I knew, which is something you can purchase yourself without the middle man. The main difference to my understanding is that you have Rochard for support to hold your hand if you do not know how to mail at all. If you send any REAL volume, Interspire is not the best MTA and there are plenty better.

As for the other stuff you mentioned in regard to the majors/tld (aol, hotmail, gmail, etc), you are correct. Each has different rules, throttles, hourly limits, among other tweaks needed to get into the inbox. If you have a decent sized list, you will need to segment it accordingly to be effective.

Most of the adult membership and newsletters I have seen to date are mainly the majors (aol, hotmail, gmail). Meaning, most seem to use those for their porn. Each one of those is a different bag o tricks to email properly, and you should learn them. You can always go to a real ESP with clean ips and try and mail out that way, as they typically will have some level of trust from the different ISP, but, that can be pricey when you pay according to volume.

Good luck.
It seems like they just kind of stopped doing anything to improve Interspire.

What software do you like better?
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There are some nice tools you can build into Interspire. It's a great software for managing your lists, open/click stats etc... Years ago we spent a lot of time building our own software and Interspire is leaps and bounds more than we had back then.

There is a lot more that goes into mailing then people think. Anyone can send mail, getting into the inbox is very difficult these days, but still possible.
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I was looking for a good newsletter service allowing adult and found this thread.

The reason I bring this old thread back to life is to ask if YNOTMAIL offers API to add subscribers to an email list without a form?
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The reason I bring this old thread back to life is to ask if YNOTMAIL offers API to add subscribers to an email list without a form?
We sure do!! Hit me up directly and I can share our API info with you.....

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We sure do!! Hit me up directly and I can share our API info with you.....

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Great news! I emailed you :-)

Thanks Rochard!
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What would an uncleaned list of 100k email addresses do on average with one of these adult email companies?

Spend $300 to mail, and make $500? Or something like that?
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What would an uncleaned list of 100k email addresses do on average with one of these adult email companies?

Spend $300 to mail, and make $500? Or something like that?
You don't want to use an old list to mail out.... Start with the most recent emails you've collected such as all of the people that bought a membership in the past two years but have canceled. Then continue to build your list with new customers, and an email collection box on every web page you have.

I've always loved your work and would kill to have you as a customer....
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be your own service https://www.atompark.com/bulk-email-service/ I haven't used this yet, but have used their verifier software for some large lists I have.
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I wish ynotmail offered a scale downed free version, maybe something with a 250 subscriber limit, so people can try it out first. I've seen other email services do this (not porn friendly ones though).
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Anyone can purchase Interspire, install it, and blast out email blindly. In most cases you will quickly end up being blacklisted from the major ISPs, and will have little recourse in getting unlisted. You will not be able to reach inboxes, and potentially your regular pop3 email will end up in spam too.

Interspire is only the first layer of software with YNOT Mail. There is other software involved, multiple servers, upstream providers, DKIM and SPF records, conflict resolution, PLUS support.
Our last several mail campaigns ended up in spam. At least on my own boxes.can we get on skype to see what issues there may be?
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I wish ynotmail offered a scale downed free version, maybe something with a 250 subscriber limit, so people can try it out first. I've seen other email services do this (not porn friendly ones though).
Hit me up.... We can arrange some kind of a small test.
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Our last several mail campaigns ended up in spam. At least on my own boxes.can we get on skype to see what issues there may be?
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This. Best advice in this thread.. ynot is not great, overpriced and as was mentioned, just a skinned script.
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I have also been using Amazon SES and Sendy lately and I am pretty happy with the results.
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man I think I've been living under a rock...it's always been my dream to do email marketing in Adult. Nice thread! Thanks for this!
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