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Old 03-12-2015, 08:26 AM   #1
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kinky dollars conversion ratio falls !?

Hello,

We have a problems with a kinky dollars conversion ratio, it falls starting from the 6th of Match, does anyone have the same issue?

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Old 03-12-2015, 08:33 AM   #2
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my sales and rebills with them went down way back in 2011, never recovered from that no matter how much traffic i sent.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:55 AM   #3
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my sales and rebills with them went down way back in 2011, never recovered from that no matter how much traffic i sent.
And what was the main reason of that?
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:31 AM   #4
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And what was the main reason of that?
changes in billing in the first place and general lack of care about affiliates as i heared from an employee over there.
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changes in billing in the first place and general lack of care about affiliates as i heared from an employee over there.
The funny thing about that is I believe I recall the kink.com CEO stating that 2011 was the year they first started seeing declines in revenues. Funny how that worked out.
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This is really surprising to me, given that it's Kink.com and their stuff is so extreme.....generic porn being oversaturated I can understand but fetish stuff? Wow.
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They dont have anything new.

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Old 03-12-2015, 04:16 PM   #10
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Their ratio failed about 5 years ago for me that's why I moved on..
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This is really surprising to me, given that it's Kink.com and their stuff is so extreme.....generic porn being oversaturated I can understand but fetish stuff? Wow.
It's all over the tubes, torrent sites, filelockers, you name it...kink's stuff is available for free just about everywhere. Their content is also the same (like one guy already stated on this thread)...very little seems to ever change, people see the same shit and they move on.
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:10 PM   #13
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I was looking at the OP's site. Great concept if it was pics only. But every sponsor I saw on there died for us a long time ago. Over-saturated, everywhere and why buy the cow when you can milk it for free?
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most of their content is available on torrents and they don't care
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Some kink video ads started to fail to be served this month. Looks like they are still down. Maybe that's the cause in a sudden recent drop in your ratio?
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Old 03-16-2015, 01:01 PM   #16
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too bad about it, they were top notch bondage sponsor in the 2000s...
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I have the Kinky Dollars advertising also terminated.
For my traffic Kinky Dollars is theoretically perfect. But the program runs very very bad on my pages.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:45 AM   #19
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The ratio falls when the kinks moved to new beta site in march.
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:56 AM   #20
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Hello,

Thanks to guy with nickname "Dikiy" from this thread https://www.master-x.com/forum/posti...light=#2848075. We have detected probable affiliate traffic leaks on the new kink website.

When we send traffic by our unencoded affiliate link to this website

Welcome to Kink.com

we get redirected to

Welcome to Kink.com

Through this transaction we'v got 4 cookies

__cfduid=d893b85fcdfb6f82a16aeb19f9f38521e14290067 82; (on nakedkombat.com expires in 1 year)
kink-ltc={"sessionId":"da5dd260-e28f-11e4-bb28-6b4b4deb1aa2"} (on kink.com expires in 3 years)
kink-aff={"stanVisitorId":"552ce9e3920d7c85408e3e84"} (on kink.com expires in 10 days)
kinky.sess=s:ACgTEXFF4xi6GSGgk4WRAvHl.8m8ipGRB3pI0 MZottzGJRzjE86d0ZCOO/BEHi7alN68 (on kink.com expires in 1 month)

While visiting another site (Public Sex Porn - PublicDisgrace.com) which is still not redirects to kink.com we are getting regular nats cookies with an affiliate id.

nats_cookie=Bookmark; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 1 day)
nats=flymedia:revshare:PUBLICDISGRACE,391,0,0,0; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 10 days)
nats_sess=57cfa1ad654e75e83525c93bc46c6824; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in about 90 days)
natsp=flymedia:revshare:PUBLICDISGRACE,391,0,0,0MD o0MjM5Nw; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 10 days)

Besides nakedkombat.com, the similar issues was currently found on:
30minutesoftorment
boundinpublic
dungeonsex
footworship
wiredpussy
sadisticrope
waterbondage

Probably others. In the nats statistic area on kinkydollars.com, we do not see any statistics by this websites, no traffic, no referrers, nothing.

Please clear:

1. How does you count affiliate traffic, and associate it with their nats account on the new kink website, why does it not reflects in the affiliates stats ?
2. Why don't you use nats for counting traffic, how can we be sure that the visitors will have our affiliate id in their cookies ?

Probably fix an issue ASAP.

Regards,
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Old 04-14-2015, 05:53 AM   #21
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In 2015 sales on kinkydollars down to zero... ratio sucks.
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:09 AM   #22
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Same as everyone else - 2011 things started going downhill.
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can anyone know how to quickly reach kink management. Seems like they are ignoring my messages in the ticket board. thanks
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:40 AM   #24
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I was thinking about promoting them with a new fetish domain I bought.I promoted them in the past. Went to the hosted galleirs and found missing banners and links going to a "oops page" that wants to redirect you else were. Also some sites tools not updated in a few years..Its sad. I really wanted to promote them right way this time..I really liked their content..So time to look else were.
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Two reasons: the tubes, torrent sites and the lack of new fresh content, the old content was way better! And time has changed: BDSM is nothing special anymore, every suburban mom does it at home all day long... (ahh.. now I got some idea for a new site). But I have to say for me Kinkydollars is one if the most honest companies. I am with them since 2003 and they never cheated or shaved me. One year I was very ill and I could not receive their checks. The year after I simply wrote them and they did send me all my cash again without hesitation or bla bla! I worked with other where I had to beg every month for my cash or had to show a pumpgun to get their attention.
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Hello,

Thanks to guy with nickname "Dikiy" from this thread https://www.master-x.com/forum/posti...light=#2848075. We have detected probable affiliate traffic leaks on the new kink website.

When we send traffic by our unencoded affiliate link to this website

Welcome to Kink.com

we get redirected to

Welcome to Kink.com

Through this transaction we'v got 4 cookies

__cfduid=d893b85fcdfb6f82a16aeb19f9f38521e14290067 82; (on nakedkombat.com expires in 1 year)
kink-ltc={"sessionId":"da5dd260-e28f-11e4-bb28-6b4b4deb1aa2"} (on kink.com expires in 3 years)
kink-aff={"stanVisitorId":"552ce9e3920d7c85408e3e84"} (on kink.com expires in 10 days)
kinky.sess=s:ACgTEXFF4xi6GSGgk4WRAvHl.8m8ipGRB3pI0 MZottzGJRzjE86d0ZCOO/BEHi7alN68 (on kink.com expires in 1 month)

While visiting another site (Public Sex Porn - PublicDisgrace.com) which is still not redirects to kink.com we are getting regular nats cookies with an affiliate id.

nats_cookie=Bookmark; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 1 day)
nats=flymedia:revshare:PUBLICDISGRACE,391,0,0,0; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 10 days)
nats_sess=57cfa1ad654e75e83525c93bc46c6824; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in about 90 days)
natsp=flymedia:revshare:PUBLICDISGRACE,391,0,0,0MD o0MjM5Nw; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 10 days)

Besides nakedkombat.com, the similar issues was currently found on:
30minutesoftorment
boundinpublic
dungeonsex
footworship
wiredpussy
sadisticrope
waterbondage

Probably others. In the nats statistic area on kinkydollars.com, we do not see any statistics by this websites, no traffic, no referrers, nothing.

Please clear:

1. How does you count affiliate traffic, and associate it with their nats account on the new kink website, why does it not reflects in the affiliates stats ?
2. Why don't you use nats for counting traffic, how can we be sure that the visitors will have our affiliate id in their cookies ?

Probably fix an issue ASAP.

Regards,
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Hello,

Thanks to guy with nickname "Dikiy" from this thread https://www.master-x.com/forum/posti...light=#2848075. We have detected probable affiliate traffic leaks on the new kink website.

When we send traffic by our unencoded affiliate link to this website

Welcome to Kink.com

we get redirected to

Welcome to Kink.com

Through this transaction we'v got 4 cookies

__cfduid=d893b85fcdfb6f82a16aeb19f9f38521e14290067 82; (on nakedkombat.com expires in 1 year)
kink-ltc={"sessionId":"da5dd260-e28f-11e4-bb28-6b4b4deb1aa2"} (on kink.com expires in 3 years)
kink-aff={"stanVisitorId":"552ce9e3920d7c85408e3e84"} (on kink.com expires in 10 days)
kinky.sess=s:ACgTEXFF4xi6GSGgk4WRAvHl.8m8ipGRB3pI0 MZottzGJRzjE86d0ZCOO/BEHi7alN68 (on kink.com expires in 1 month)

While visiting another site (Public Sex Porn - PublicDisgrace.com) which is still not redirects to kink.com we are getting regular nats cookies with an affiliate id.

nats_cookie=Bookmark; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 1 day)
nats=flymedia:revshare:PUBLICDISGRACE,391,0,0,0; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 10 days)
nats_sess=57cfa1ad654e75e83525c93bc46c6824; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in about 90 days)
natsp=flymedia:revshare:PUBLICDISGRACE,391,0,0,0MD o0MjM5Nw; (on publicdisgrace.com expires in 10 days)

Besides nakedkombat.com, the similar issues was currently found on:
30minutesoftorment
boundinpublic
dungeonsex
footworship
wiredpussy
sadisticrope
waterbondage

Probably others. In the nats statistic area on kinkydollars.com, we do not see any statistics by this websites, no traffic, no referrers, nothing.

Please clear:

1. How does you count affiliate traffic, and associate it with their nats account on the new kink website, why does it not reflects in the affiliates stats ?
2. Why don't you use nats for counting traffic, how can we be sure that the visitors will have our affiliate id in their cookies ?

Probably fix an issue ASAP.

Regards,
I forwarded this issue to affiliates at kink .com
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:55 AM   #31
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Hey! They have wrote me that the problem due to moving kink network to a new platform, and kinky dollars will be moved to a new platform Kinky Dollars as well. So the traffic currently allocating among two platforms, and it brings such problems, i don't know when they will complete this issue but it lasts for about 4 months already. Let me know if you have more information.
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Who knows what are the signups for 1.59 in beta?

1 year - $26.67\mo. (one payment of 319/99) subscription $1.59
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Who knows what are the signups for 1.59 in beta?

1 year - $26.67\mo. (one payment of 319/99) subscription $1.59
They have a bug with some payouts. Your $1.59 should be $159, they put the decimal to 2 spots to the left. You should email them. Allot of people have this problem.
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Your $1.59 should be $159, they put the decimal to 2 spots to the left. You should email them.
I think they should be aware of this issue if this bug concerns the whole system.
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Hey guys, I work for kink [I used to work for Famedollars, hence the name] and I can confirm this is only a display error in our system. He is correct that the decimal point is just two places off, it's a bug and we're working to fix it as quickly as possible. Your money and payments will be correct.

If you have any questions you can contact myself or Carla our affiliate manager directly. We hope to have this fixed by the end of the week.
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Hey guys, I work for kink [I used to work for Famedollars, hence the name] and I can confirm this is only a display error in our system. He is correct that the decimal point is just two places off, it's a bug and we're working to fix it as quickly as possible. Your money and payments will be correct.

If you have any questions you can contact myself or Carla our affiliate manager directly. We hope to have this fixed by the end of the week.
Thanks Jesse!

While you're working on changing the display, would you mind adding a tiny something?
In the detailed stats ( KinkyDollars ), it would be very helpful to have hour:minute:seconds displayed in the date column for the signups, not just the day.
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Also I'm curious now that you're working for Kink does that mean you guys have the resources to address broken affiliate links dating from the migration to the new platform? I put in a bunch of tickets about them and other issues stemming from the migration in early September but nobody responded and when I pressed Carla about them she said there just weren't sufficient resources available to fix the broken links or even to talk to me about when they might be fixed. It was a very disappointing response and the links are still broken and my questions about the migration not answered. Hoping your presence here on the board indicates that the resource crunch she cited as her reason might have relaxed?

Some of the details are in this thread and I assume my unanswered tickets are still in the ticket system. If not I have the original ticket emails I could provide.
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Hey guys, I work for kink [I used to work for Famedollars, hence the name] and I can confirm this is only a display error in our system. He is correct that the decimal point is just two places off, it's a bug and we're working to fix it as quickly as possible. Your money and payments will be correct.
I was just about to write to you concerning the bizarre amounts $0.13, 0.19 and so on but obviously you know for the problem.
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Thanks Jesse!

While you're working on changing the display, would you mind adding a tiny something?
In the detailed stats ( KinkyDollars ), it would be very helpful to have hour:minute:seconds displayed in the date column for the signups, not just the day.
I'll create a ticket about that, but it may not get done until early next year as we only have two sprints left until the holiday break so it's pretty packed. But it should be easy enough!
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Also I'm curious now that you're working for Kink does that mean you guys have the resources to address broken affiliate links dating from the migration to the new platform? I put in a bunch of tickets about them and other issues stemming from the migration in early September but nobody responded and when I pressed Carla about them she said there just weren't sufficient resources available to fix the broken links or even to talk to me about when they might be fixed. It was a very disappointing response and the links are still broken and my questions about the migration not answered. Hoping your presence here on the board indicates that the resource crunch she cited as her reason might have relaxed?

Some of the details are in this thread and I assume my unanswered tickets are still in the ticket system. If not I have the original ticket emails I could provide.
Yes I did. Can you e-mail me directly via the link above? I'd love to get your original ticket and any examples you may have.

Cheers.
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Thanks, Jesse. You have email (with examples). Appreciate it!
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Hello. We still didn't get payment this month, as well as stats not showing data for the last 2 days.
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Hello. We still didn't get payment this month, as well as stats not showing data for the last 2 days.
same here, cant remember when the last time was when the payments went after 10th..

JesseKink, could you please let us know when we finally get them?
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anyone still making any decent monies with kinkydollars.com?
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Well the wrong commission values are still not fixed. ($0.17 instead of $17, etc).

Maybe that's why the payments are delayed - just guessing.
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i just did not understood, why they offered all the vr for free? vr is now refresh for all the niches, and they just did few shots for free, or am i wrong? they were one of the first it not the first, and the train just left the station without them on it ...
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So, is it a delay with payments for November?
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Hey guys, just saw this.

We were fixing two issues prior to sending out payments for November which have subsequently been fixed, we had planned to send them out on the 5th. However our accounting woman has been ill literally for a week and is the only one that can process these payments.

Yes, I know this isn't the best system, we're working on a failsafe so this doesn't happen again of course. That being said, I've heard word that come hell or high water payments will go out tomorrow both electronic and physical checks.

It's the holidays and I know it's not convenient, but you've got our apologies for what it's worth and we're working on a ton of improvements to the beta.kinkydollars admin for you guys, it's one of my top priorities.

All this being said, if you have any emergencies you can e-mail me directly. [I can't rush your checks out to you but if you have tracking issues or payment discrepancies I can help there] and any other bug reporting can come to me or Carla as well.

Thanks for understanding.
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i just did not understood, why they offered all the vr for free? vr is now refresh for all the niches, and they just did few shots for free, or am i wrong? they were one of the first it not the first, and the train just left the station without them on it ...
The VR product was given away for free to test, gauge interest, and work out the kinks. We will be sending out news on actual VR products very soon, trust me, we didn't miss the train out of the station haha.

We sell a unique product and it comes with it's on challenge to keep the VR both on brand and in line with the fetish aspects our users expect. Keep your eyes peeled.
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Well the wrong commission values are still not fixed. ($0.17 instead of $17, etc).

Maybe that's why the payments are delayed - just guessing.
This should be fixed by EOW, it's just a display issue and we're finishing up the script that's going to fix this.
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