dyna mo

Incidents of aggression and violence in the classroom should be met with immediate, nonaggressive consequences. The author discusses specific strategies for preventing violent episodes and for reacting appropriately when they do occur.

Practical Strategies for Working With Students Who Display Aggression and Violence
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escorpio

A huge percentage of your homeboys don't think fathers should be parents.

Horatio Caine

Parenting is for suckers

jimmycooper

Well said.

420

It checks out.

parenting = hard work = for suckers

TheSquealer

It's nuts right? Remember when every classroom had a big ass paddle hanging over the black board? This shit just didn't happen. Talking back didn't happen. Raising your voice to the teacher didn't happen. Not following instructions didn't happen. "Demanding respect" didn't happen. Getting punished by the teacher was always preferred to what happened if you actually got sent to the principle. I remember seeing some violent shit too between teacher/students when things went to far and I don't remember ever not thinking "well idiot, all you had to do was shut your mouth". An incidentally, when a kid came home after a run in with the teacher or principle, there was a worse fate waiting for them.

The world is officially fucked.

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dyna mo

can someone provide this thread with statistics, hell, even a statistic, that supports the notion that allowing teachers to beat and whip our children produces a higher quality education/better person?

I'm open and happy to stand corrected on my view that intellect trumps muscle in teaching and that we should teach violence prevention to our teachers and not kung fu/small arms carry.

OneHungLo

Tax payers children? I highly doubt his parents paid a fucking cent into the system. Shit, that was probably an obamaphone

SilentKnight

This has deviated a long way from the OP video showing a black thug physically attacking a 65-yr-old teacher who did little to defend himself.

Diomed

For the requirements and understanding you are suggesting that teachers have.. There would be no fucking teachers.

You can quote bullshit articles all day long, it certainly doesn't mean your right. In this thread, like many others.. You take an ignorant stance and keep keep keep trying to prove it.

I love watching you waste your time. Please indulge us some more.

As was stated, this thread was about an ignorant ass student who body slammed his teacher for taking away his cell phone. Your political correctness gone mad bullshit about the way these underpaid teachers who are no doubt working these jobs because they are decent folk and want to contribute is a ridiculous thought in itself.

Perhaps that teacher implemented your quoted tactics all year long.. But there comes a point where what's right is right.

I'm guessing he shouldn't have taken the cell phone. Or when the student defied authority and demanded it back from the TEACHER, he should have then just coughed it up.. Like that would set a good example.

My whole point, and most everyone else's here.. Besides dumb monkey troll of the year, was that the teacher was in the right.

You can take your training and idealistic bullshit and torch it, because this shit happens all over the country with black students regardless of the teachers awareness, approach, or actions.

It starts in the home.

But do indulge us in some more semantic bullshit and keep patting yourself on the back you awful little egotistical douchebag bro jo cunt. Everybody is listening to you, I promise.

Like it has fuck all to do with the simple deduction of what happened. I look forward to you grabbing some other micro tangent and blabbing on about it for two hours as well.. We wait with baited breath you sincere intellectual you

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dyna mo

I think it's spot on, tbh. prevention of the situation via superior intellect. that physics teachers should be 10x smarter than that punk student and cnsequently, easily manipulated the event in another direction.

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Paterson freshman charged with assault after classroom attack on teacher - Paterson - NorthJersey.com

He said the teacher apparently confiscated the phone — which belonged to the assailant — from another student. The principal said students are allowed to use cellphones in class for academic purposes, but staff may take the devices and return them at the end of the day if students use them for other reasons.

AaronM

Only if you assume it was a bad teacher.

We know the student is wrong. Had his parents raised him better then he would't have fucked up in the first place.

AaronM

Somebody gets it....

AaronM

He didn't even mention the kid was black you dimwitted racist dolt.

RummyBoy

The adults who don't get it are actually a bigger part of the problem (not the kids themselves who should in the "juvie" as you say) and the reason why it's not gonna get fixed anytime soon. That's what's really depressing.

dyna mo

I don't think it's a leap to assume the teacher handled this poorly. So let's assume he's a good teacher that handled this situation poorly. Being allowed to "confiscate" a phone during class time doesn't mean actually physically fighting to confiscate the phone.

by all accounts, the teacher took his phone from another student, then this student went and grabbed it from the teacher, who then made it into a fight for the phone.

YOu are one of the more common-sense gfyers, I bet you agree that this teacher and policy could use some best practices updates on how to handle these types of students, maintaining control of a classroom and how to confiscate a phone.

there is no question the kid assaulted the instructor but he would not have if that phone was just sitting somewhere and he took it back. the teacher held on to it and made it a physical altercation by not relinquishing it. He could have put the phone away and if the student then usurped a boundary to get his phone back, a simple call to security would have kept that teacher in control of his classroom and kept the other students out of harm's way.

dyna mo

i realized after my editing time expired that the black part didn't directly reply to the implied narrative in this thread.

so take the black part out. my point is still valid that the teacher is much smarter than the student and easily could have handled this situation better.


and gofuckyourself.

dyna mo

I don't mind being the only one here who gets the fact that teachers can learn from this to acquire better tools to maintain control of their classrooms.

TheSquealer

You are the only one denying the fact that a student attacked a teacher and was 100% wrong to do so and its more than likely that absolutely nothing could have been done to avoid it.... and you have NO OTHER INFORMATION to tell you exactly what led up to that moment exactly, what was said, what threats were made, how much time there was to think or say something and so on. You just have this strong emotional reaction against the teacher and you are grasping to rationalize it. Seriously, everyone can see this. This is a moment where you could step back and ask "wow... hm... i seem to be very out of sync in my understanding of the events vs others... what is off here?".

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dyna mo

you might want to read the thread better prior to your psych profile making this about me.

Because when and if you do, you will see at least 2x where I've agreed with others such as AaronM that the kid was wrong and should be punished and I've even rementioned that at least 1x more time since then.

after that you might realize I'm the most pragmatic person in this thread.

and gofuckyourself.

dyna mo

my pragmatic view backed up by researchers and educators:

Lykos

They look fucking dangerous

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dyna mo

ANd I haven't even began to rip apart the argument that it is OK for strangers to exact physical punishment on our kids.

TheSquealer

Again, my point was that you literally have no clue what the exchange was before the video. You know nothing but the video and the statement that the phone was taken from a 3rd party. That is all you know. So there is zero basis whatsoever for suggesting the teacher should have done something differently as you've been doing. Whether there is something to be learned from the incident, depends on what ALL THE FACTS ARE... not your simplistic "rush to judgement" over simplifications.

As for your quotes. Who cares? I can dig up things to support any view I want. I can dig up research to prove aliens built the pyramids and go on and on about how PHD's agree with me. That means nothing and is 100% irrelevant to the undeniable truth that you do not have all the facts of the event, to pass judgement on the teacher.

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dyna mo

do you understand the difference between inference and deduction? I mean do you? because I don't think you do. If you did you'd easily see that what I am assuming is well within the boundaries of logical inference enough to conclude that violence prevention trumps escalating violence in the classroom.

I mean really, arguing against prevention. that's your stance here. you're stating I am rushing to judgement to even suggest that it better to diplomatically control the classroom with superior intellect over muscling students.


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obviously you CAN'T dig up things to support your view all you want because I asked yesterday for 1 simple statistic that supports your view that teachers physically beating our kids in the classroom leads to better education/better people, etc.

I'm still waiting for that.

dyna mo

feel free to retract this nonsense since I've proofed it false.

dyna mo

okey dokey, i gotta hop for abit but I'll check back later,

remember, there is always opportunity to do better, this event isn't any different.

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