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Old 12-13-2014, 05:02 AM   #1
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so how are your sales in december ?

for me - something terrible. looks like someone turned some switch off...

same traffic, sales ? = 4x times less what they used to be usually so far.

so far I didnt have such bad month since YEARS.

just unbelievable...........
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Old 12-13-2014, 05:29 AM   #2
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for me - something terrible. looks like someone turned some switch off...
it seems you say this every month ever since Google discovered your spammy network.
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Old 12-13-2014, 07:08 AM   #8
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I agree, it does feel like a switch was turned off.

The same way google stopped accepting xxx adwords, could it be that the credit card companies made a similar decision, but just didn't announce it?

Something is up, that's for sure.
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just to be different, the last two months were really bad but December is looking much better so far.
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just to be different, the last two months were really bad but December is looking much better so far.
Same here..
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:25 AM   #15
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Something is definitely up, my traffic has increased but sales are down.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:36 PM   #17
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Not bad, but I just started a new paysite so natural to see the increase.

Paying more to affiliates on revshare banner spots then ad brokers so something is working.
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it seems you say this every month ever since Google discovered your spammy network.
sorry, but you confused me with someone else
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Same here for the last 3 months
exactly, everything dropped down from October, but December so far is so bad that I dont recall so bad month in last 10 years
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I agree, it does feel like a switch was turned off.

The same way google stopped accepting xxx adwords, could it be that the credit card companies made a similar decision, but just didn't announce it?

Something is up, that's for sure.
sadly, maybe it is time to give up on this biz finally... if it is as easy to "turn some switch off" and ruin the earnings of people, than i dont want to be in such biz......
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for me - something terrible. looks like someone turned some switch off...

same traffic, sales ? = 4x times less what they used to be usually so far.

so far I didnt have such bad month since YEARS.

just unbelievable...........
sounds like a similar story for everyone. Where is the switch, we need to turn it back on
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for me - something terrible. looks like someone turned some switch off...

same traffic, sales ? = 4x times less what they used to be usually so far.

so far I didnt have such bad month since YEARS.

just unbelievable...........
From what viewpoint, as a sponsor or affiliate?

If affiliate, what type of sponsors are you promoting? Paysites, cams, dating, ad networks, VOD, sex toys, DVDs, mainstream, etc?

What commission structure are you using? Revshare, PPS, PPL, CPM?

How many sites do you run? How many niches do you promote?

If your business is properly diversified, the impact from one factor should be minimal, without such extreme variations to your bottom line.
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4th, 10th and 12th in particular

I always know when those days happen that threads will start appearing on GFY with people having a similar experience
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From what viewpoint, as a sponsor or affiliate?

If affiliate, what type of sponsors are you promoting? Paysites, cams, dating, ad networks, VOD, sex toys, DVDs, mainstream, etc?

What commission structure are you using? Revshare, PPS, PPL, CPM?

How many sites do you run? How many niches do you promote?

If your business is properly diversified, the impact from one factor should be minimal, without such extreme variations to your bottom line.
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4th, 10th and 12th in particular

I always know when those days happen that threads will start appearing on GFY with people having a similar experience
So are you saying there's a conspiracy on those dates?
Maybe more like collusion (so often confused with conspiracy).

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So are you saying there's a conspiracy on those dates?
Maybe more like collusion (so often confused with conspiracy).

I was throwing those dates out to see if there was much agreement, but could well be that scrubbing days vary. Something going on somewhere, possibly stolen credit cards on the lose.
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the DIP in sales started in November for me
December..just a tiny bit better..but sad to look at

I really hope we recover soon...because its depressing seeing this crap

What can we do? Fine tune and monetize.
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From what viewpoint, as a sponsor or affiliate?

If affiliate, what type of sponsors are you promoting? Paysites, cams, dating, ad networks, VOD, sex toys, DVDs, mainstream, etc?

What commission structure are you using? Revshare, PPS, PPL, CPM?

How many sites do you run? How many niches do you promote?

If your business is properly diversified, the impact from one factor should be minimal, without such extreme variations to your bottom line.
affiliate POV...I promote only paysites.... STEADY (+- 50 % max difference in steady ranges) income since years...I see no reason for such fluctuation...anyway, the month is still not over, and in this business you may earn in one day what you would earn in one week, so lets see....
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the DIP in sales started in November for me
December..just a tiny bit better..but sad to look at

I really hope we recover soon...because its depressing seeing this crap

What can we do? Fine tune and monetize.
Fine tuning is for people who have steadily growing businesses. People who see declines, especially sharp declines need to make radical changes to turn things around.

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affiliate POV...I promote only paysites.... STEADY (+- 50 % max difference in steady ranges) income since years...I see no reason for such fluctuation...anyway, the month is still not over, and in this business you may earn in one day what you would earn in one week, so lets see....
As I said, you're not properly diversified. You should take the opportunity to offer other products and services to your valuable traffic. If you don't offer them, then someone else will monetize that traffic. What do you have against other monetization methods?
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C4S....a little low.
Content sales...lame.
VOD site sales...on par.
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C4S....a little low.
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Is the VOD worthwhile, or would I be better offering live cam from my solo site again?
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bust be a hard times, when even affiliate managers, who have been spamming similar threads with how great sales and ratios their program is getting, gave up also have luck with your business everyone! btw, if your sales are down, now count, how many hours of work have you put in last two months into your site? ten? twenty? you know what i mean ...
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They are two completely different entities - apples & oranges.
I'd do both, if I were you...monetize, monetize, monetize...
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There was definitely a barrier to sales last night (for me at least), perhaps they keep the chargeback ratio as low as possible before Christmas then take down the scrub for serious sales over the Christmas period
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I agree, it does feel like a switch was turned off.

The same way google stopped accepting xxx adwords, could it be that the credit card companies made a similar decision, but just didn't announce it?

Something is up, that's for sure.
Haven't heard from you in awhile.

I think the last post I remember from you was that you were back to making $14k/month after putting in 6 months of hard work.

Are you still doing well or suffering like most affiliates these days?
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It's a lot easier to spot the switch when you're doing those numbers
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I think the last post I remember from you was that you were back to making $14k/month after putting in 6 months of hard work.

Are you still doing well or suffering like most affiliates these days?
Hey,

wow you've got a great memory :-) Well I am still doing adult but obviously its not as lucrative as it was years ago.

Lots more competition for eyeballs and search engine positioning. My income is steadily declining in adult but then so is the time I'm spending promoting adult. Becoming a dad twice in 1 year can certainly be distracting too

I still have adult sponsors that sell like cockwork but i dont want to go the way of BlockBuster and continue to rely 100% on promoting things that people can get for free or cheap elsewhere.

I've since been concentrating more on mainstream projects. It finally hit me that I've built up quite an array of skills and experience/expertise and I'm being silly spending 100% of my time promoting adult - when you think of it, adult is a niche product!

The mainstream market is wider and deeper than adult and there really are a ton of mainstream opportunities that I would be silly not to take advantage of.

Now that everyone and their grandmother has the internet in their hands - all the time - the opportunities are boundless. It requires the same energy and focus as adult but with a bigger market available to you.

It also takes time to build up a mainstream income just like it does in adult but its a more reliable income and makes more sense/cents than relying 100% on an industry that gets no respect the way adult does.

P.S. I find it interesting that google now refuses to take xxx adwords (I was making good profit on those!) but they still show a shitload of torrent results for xxx movie titles. fucking google

P.P.S. I still love promoting adult and seeing beautiful women naked! Always have, always will :-)
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it seems you say this every month ever since Google discovered your spammy network.
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i cant compare my sales with the last dec.2013..they dropped down
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Usually December it's our best month, but not this year , even in august sells was better.
I think the reason is that many affiliate lost there traffic in the last Google update.
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