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Old 07-06-2012, 02:09 PM   #801
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lol joker - It took 1 guy to get pissed at all the thieves, do a little hard work, and is now true mate to the industry. ;)
Holy shit, I had no idea what you said before until I started Google-ing the words... how does an Aussie end up in Bucharest?!
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:12 PM   #802
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Theo....Eric....

For Gods sake pin this thread....show some fucking support and leadership here will ya.
GFY is up and running - Theo and Eric are eating these attacks because of this campaign and that is good enough for me.

No need to pin this, this mofo thread is active enough and it will stay this way for quite some time
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:14 PM   #803
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We'll just keep bumping it to the top.
where it rightfully belongs
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Jesus, they are coming out of the word work now.
I think we both misunderstood him - he was saying nice things, it just sounded... off?!

@Gozarian Sorry mate but to me it sounded like some angry Russian as well
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GFY is up and running - Theo and Eric are eating these attacks because of this campaign and that is good enough for me.

No need to pin this, this mofo thread is active enough and it will stay this way for quite some time
Good point but it troubles me that AVN nor XBiz seems to think this is even newsworthy
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:15 PM   #806
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Holy shit, I had no idea what you said before until I started Google-ing the words... how does an Aussie end up in Bucharest?!
Im not just spent a quite a bit of time there surfing over the years

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all's fair Joker i got no problems
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Good point but it troubles me that AVN nor XBiz seems to think this is even newsworthy
Agreed, but I can also understand that they try to avoid to touch the CP angle - it's gonna take alot more effort and manpower to make this go viral and to push it into the mainstream news - then it's really showtime and soon thereafter game over.

Only time will tell if the adult industry can get united in this and together pull the right strings.
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Good point but it troubles me that AVN nor XBiz seems to think this is even newsworthy
You of all people know exactly why.
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Agreed, but I can also understand that they try to avoid to touch the CP angle - it's gonna take alot more effort and manpower to make this go viral and to push it into the mainstream news - then it's really showtime and soon thereafter game over.

Only time will tell if the adult industry can get united in this and together pull the right strings.
Something tells me the mainstream just might get wind of the effort.
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Something tells me the mainstream just might get wind of the effort.
Oh I think mainstream is already getting ready to be all over it...that torrentfreak article got a LOT of attention.....Adultking may find himself with some mighty big backers

He is helping hollywood as much as he is us
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:32 PM   #813
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I know for fact MPAA has gotten wind of his efforts
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Good point but it troubles me that AVN nor XBiz seems to think this is even newsworthy
No mystery there.

You know who's behind AVN, right?
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Oh I know

I broke a story on it

http://www.mikesouth.com/avn/avn-own...ing-site-6046/

Theo has since denied that Vasillis is anything more than just a name for paperwork for many companies but the question that remains is why is the real owner hiding behind vasillis if this is the case? But lets not derail this thread.
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I heard they received an email!
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torrentfreak.com/cyberlocker-offered-to-help-prosecute-users-to-settle-34-8m-copyright-suit-120706/
I hope there is no agreement in that. If I?m reading this correctly, Liberty Media would basically become a partner to Oron and profit off copyright material. Business as usual except Liberty Media has free reign to remove and redirect links to their stuff.
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I hope there is no agreement in that. If I?m reading this correctly, Liberty Media would basically become a partner to Oron and profit off copyright material. Business as usual except Liberty Media has free reign to remove and redirect links to their stuff.
Here is the settlement: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u5xc0xsw0rnx9ak/4JvrzADupd

Some real scum bag shit in there.
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Here is the settlement:

Some real scum bag shit in there.
Thanks. I'll give it a read now
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TorrentFreak intimates that a deal has been struck between the parties to settle the case. If true this is troubling especially in light of what TorrentFreak is reporting, that Oron agreed to Liberty's offer of "some public relations help for Oron in order to minimize the chance of other lawsuits being brought against it?.

If true, all I can say is - WTF!
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I hope there is no agreement in that. If I?m reading this correctly, Liberty Media would basically become a partner to Oron and profit off copyright material. Business as usual except Liberty Media has free reign to remove and redirect links to their stuff.
I think you are mis-reading it. Seems more like Oron would become like the "legit tubes" and work with content partners and have a vested interest in protecting those partners.
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If Liberty has free reign to remove their content that blows all DMCA safe harbor protection out the door, doesn't it?
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Thanks. I'll give it a read now
However it ends, you can count on Oron getting off pretty easy (started at 34 mil) and them rolling over on their uploaders. But it's a shit thing to do for Corbin Fisher to lie for Oron, settlement or not.
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However it ends, you can count on Oron getting off pretty easy (started at 34 mil) and them rolling over on their uploaders. But it's a shit thing to do for Corbin Fisher to lie for Oron, settlement or not.
When backed into a corner, almost anyone sane puts themselves first.
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What?? How is Liberty backed into a corner? They have Oron by the balls and willingly offered to let go and LIE in the process.
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What?? How is Liberty backed into a corner? They have Oron by the balls and willingly offered to let go and LIE in the process.
Oron was backed into a corner, not Liberty. They rolled on their customers. I'm sure many options were weighed in the matter.
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Exactly, so wtf is Liberty and Randazza doing taking a nibble when they could have the entire apple
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I think you are mis-reading it. Seems more like Oron would become like the "legit tubes" and work with content partners and have a vested interest in protecting those partners.
It means they will work with Liberty Media, who will in turn lie, telling everyone Oron is DMCA compliant and is willing to will work with content owners. However, Oron isn't going to give two squirts of piss about anyone else, and they don't have to. That has always been how they operate. It is clear Fisher is going to blow whatever smoke he has to blow to collect a smaller payday, info on uploaders, and the ability to swap links to seed videos so they can track and sue the downloaders.

However, business is business. I'm just happy to have seen that he is just a whore, as I previously held him in much higher regard.

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"Disingenuous as it may be" is all that needs to be said. Pay us and we'll lie for you and try to keep you out of trouble.

Three million frozen in their Hong Kong account and their counter offer is $50,000. Even if they sue the uploaders AND downloaders, they probably won't collect on what they could probably get from Oron.
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However it ends, you can count on Oron getting off pretty easy (started at 34 mil) and them rolling over on their uploaders. But it's a shit thing to do for Corbin Fisher to lie for Oron, settlement or not.
Yea, it?s a pretty fucked up thing for them to do if they do it. Especially since they?ve come out in public court documents stating Oron has CP and can prove it from Orons forums.

Sorry for the hijack
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Exactly, so wtf is Liberty and Randazza doing taking a nibble when they could have the entire apple
They want the uploaders who loaded their content. But how many of them are going to be in the USA? Probably not many. So then they go after downloaders. But they are suing Oron for a huge amount, going after the downloaders couldn't possibly come close to what they could get out of Oron. There is 3 million alone in one hong kong account. A few hundred grand in paypal. Then you have alert pay and ccbill and lord knows what else. It's not like Oron doesn't have money.
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I sure wish they, Fisher and Randazza, had AK's balls
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I sure wish they, Fisher and Randazza, had AK's balls
I'm pretty sure AK is hetero.
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Hey everyone, I just read through everything.

For the Aussie that's turned up, these blokes haven't been properly rogered by me yet, wait til I get really pissed off then i'll go as feral as Mark Latham in a taxi! Cheers mate, it is hard work but it's worthwhile.

To the AVN criticisms, to be fair AVN contacted me overnight and we're speaking on Monday.

To the ideas Mr Peabody has about methods, let's talk about those later

To the absolute dirt bags hopping on ICQ with veiled threats and who keep sending me hate emails, don't you realize that pissed off Aussies don't back down ? If you were a bit nicer and cut with the threats then I might try and reason with you.

Two thing file lockers need to realize.

1. Clean up your act and I'll work with you. I'm reasonable, the industry is reasonable but you have to take efforts to clean up your business. If you are honest about doing so then you have nothing to fear about us. We will even help you do it!

2. Keep pissing me off and I will find all the real evidence there is and report to authorities, post to public for all to see and ensure you never run a file locker again (I don't care how big your fucking company is). Got that ?

Gozarian summed it up nicely, us Aussies are thick skinned bastards who when go on a mission, will complete it to the very end. It's part of our spirit. The Eureka Stockade, Gallipoli, The Kokoda trail, the list goes on. We're fighters and I've woken up really pissed off this morning, so file lockers, do the right thing or watch out.

Also a little note, you might get me but you can't get all the people helping me, the volunteers, the staff, the contributors, the methods, the reports, the credit card processors action, the work of Paypal, the list goes on and on. So just fucking back off or i'll go from nuclear to thermonuclear.

right. Good Morning chaps. I feel much better now, who's up for a morning cuppa! ?

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I am guessing that some of you guys have never been in a case where they negotiate back and forth like this. Offer one thing, withdraw it, offer another, and back and forth.

Few main things to keep in mind.

1 is that the offer was withdrawn in 1-2 days, and if you look at the dates you see the Randazza guy was hard as heck on Oron after those offers in court.

2 is that Randazza is paid by Liberty. While he would love to do this for all website owners his first obligation is to Liberty and to maximize the settlement in favor of the client that is paying him (even if not perfect for ALL webmasters).

3 We all could have hired him BEFORE Liberty did and we ALL could have gone after Oron before Liberty did. We didn't - and for those of you that visit the XBiz forum you might remember that back in April there was a topic going about many people putting in money for a suit like this and only ONE person ever sent a dime. Just one person... seems hundreds of webmasters had the chance to get involved and didn't.

4 Strategically, Liberty / Randazza might be pulling the smartest move available. $400,000 settlement is one thing. A $250,000 with Oron that includes all user data might very well be better... because that user data would do two things... bring future settlements with direct uploaders and take those direct uploaders out of actions forever!

He might be the smartest damn lawyer in the business - but he is acting in the best interests of his client as he is obligated to do - and that might not seem great to you and me, but damn he sure is taking care of the guys PAYING HIM.
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I have, but beside the point, couldn't you let my morning rage stay by itself for a bit before posting this ? Good points though.
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Hi, Mr King
how about
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I sure wish they, Fisher and Randazza, had AK's balls
I don't care what the final agreement is financially, or if Oron burns downloaders or not, but I'm not going to change my mind about it being a scum bag thing to do to even offer to lie for Oron, who is one of the worst pirate lockers and a child porn haven. That is just wrong any way you look at it.

Sue them, get their member info, get money, swap links, sue downloaders, do what you have to do, but don't lie for those bottom feeders.
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Ok, I'm not letting any secrets out here. So stop asking me about sites. When we have done something you'll read about it here. There's a whole lot more people collaborating on this now, it's not just me. So seriously, we're not going to forewarn any sites they are about to be targeted, when or how.
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Sue them, get their member info, get money, swap links, sue downloaders, do what you have to do, but don't lie for those bottom feeders.


Although I'd like to take a blowtorch to them as well , or is that going too far ?
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:21 PM   #843
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Hey everyone, I just read through everything.

For the Aussie that's turned up, these blokes haven't been properly rogered by me yet, wait til I get really pissed off then i'll go as feral as Mark Latham in a taxi! Cheers mate, it is hard work but it's worthwhile.

To the AVN criticisms, to be fair AVN contacted me overnight and we're speaking on Monday.

To the ideas Mr Peabody has about methods, let's talk about those later

To the absolute dirt bags hopping on ICQ with veiled threats and who keep sending me hate emails, don't you realize that pissed off Aussies don't back down ? If you were a bit nicer and cut with the threats then I might try and reason with you.

Two thing file lockers need to realize.

1. Clean up your act and I'll work with you. I'm reasonable, the industry is reasonable but you have to take efforts to clean up your business. If you are honest about doing so then you have nothing to fear about us. We will even help you do it!

2. Keep pissing me off and I will find all the real evidence there is and report to authorities, post to public for all to see and ensure you never run a file locker again (I don't care how big your fucking company is). Got that ?

Gozarian summed it up nicely, us Aussies are thick skinned bastards who when go on a mission, will complete it to the very end. It's part of our spirit. The Eureka Stockade, Gallipoli, The Kokoda trail, the list goes on. We're fighters and I've woken up really pissed off this morning, so file lockers, do the right thing or watch out.

Also a little note, you might get me but you can't get all the people helping me, the volunteers, the staff, the contributors, the methods, the reports, the credit card processors action, the work of Paypal, the list goes on and on. So just fucking back off or i'll go from nuclear to thermonuclear.

right. Good Morning chaps. I feel much better now, who's up for a morning cuppa! ?
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I am guessing that some of you guys have never been in a case where they negotiate back and forth like this. Offer one thing, withdraw it, offer another, and back and forth.

Few main things to keep in mind.

1 is that the offer was withdrawn in 1-2 days, and if you look at the dates you see the Randazza guy was hard as heck on Oron after those offers in court.

2 is that Randazza is paid by Liberty. While he would love to do this for all website owners his first obligation is to Liberty and to maximize the settlement in favor of the client that is paying him (even if not perfect for ALL webmasters).

3 We all could have hired him BEFORE Liberty did and we ALL could have gone after Oron before Liberty did. We didn't - and for those of you that visit the XBiz forum you might remember that back in April there was a topic going about many people putting in money for a suit like this and only ONE person ever sent a dime. Just one person... seems hundreds of webmasters had the chance to get involved and didn't.

4 Strategically, Liberty / Randazza might be pulling the smartest move available. $400,000 settlement is one thing. A $250,000 with Oron that includes all user data might very well be better... because that user data would do two things... bring future settlements with direct uploaders and take those direct uploaders out of actions forever!

He might be the smartest damn lawyer in the business - but he is acting in the best interests of his client as he is obligated to do - and that might not seem great to you and me, but damn he sure is taking care of the guys PAYING HIM.
I get all of that, but you are missing the point. Why on earth would Fisher offer to lie for Oron, who is a huge pirate who often ignores DMCA and hosts child porn?

That is about as low as it gets. None of the other stuff matters. Offering to lie to the entire industry about Oron of all sites, is a straight up douche bag move.

Would you cover for someone who hosts child porn? I wouldn't think anyone of sound mind would.
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was a tip of the hat, how could you read it any other way? King is the dinky-di and he is rooting all their payment sources - gotta love it -
Are you using some translator to create Aussie slang? I only ask because it reads like you have - as in that is not how the slang is used.
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Are you using some translator to create Aussie slang? I only ask because it reads like you have - as in that is not how the slang is used.
I hate to say it but I have a mate in Darwin who talks EXACTLY like that.
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I think you are mis-reading it. Seems more like Oron would become like the "legit tubes" and work with content partners and have a vested interest in protecting those partners.
And meanwhile, fuck everyone else over.

I'd much prefer that Oron be dead. But then again, that's how I feel about your so called legal tubes with their legal 10 minute clips

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I hate to say it but I have a mate in Darwin who talks EXACTLY like that.
I have mates who use that slang fairly frequently, however it isn't mixed in with broken engrish.

Ever find that the younger generation say upto 20 / early 20's have no clue what you are talking about with basic Aussie slang?

Ie I said to a shop assistant the other day "what is old mate doing?" and pointed to another shop assistant and they looked at me like I was speaking Chinese. Kind of sad really.
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Ie I said to a shop assistant the other day "what is old mate doing?" and pointed to another shop assistant and they looked at me like I was speaking Chinese. Kind of sad really.
Yep. Blame the political correctness brigade for all that.
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I'm off for a bit of a rest guys, new comments on the blog have been approved, some funny ones there. There won't be too much killing action over the weekend as the card companies and Paypal teams are off until Monday.

We're working hard on a collaboration system for everyone else getting involved.

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