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demon100 · 03-19-2012, 09:29 PM

Hi i sent tube clips with watermarks. I get descent traffic but no sales . What are the ratios these days? 1:300 1:1000?
Thanks

baryl · 03-19-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by demon100

Hi i sent tube clips with watermarks. I get descent traffic but no sales . What are the ratios these days? 1:300 1:1000?
Thanks

People looking for free porn aren't the best demographic.

shake · 03-19-2012, 10:14 PM

I'm guessing they head back to the tube when they see it's a paysite...

sizz · 03-19-2012, 10:21 PM

Been a while since I was in the tube site biz but a number I real was 60:70,000. 1:1000 if you are doing ok.

epitome · 03-19-2012, 10:37 PM

I have no idea what the straight ratios are, but on the gay side, submitting is totally worth it, as is having your own tube.

5 minutes is the new 2 minutes, but with good editing you don't give too much away, even in five minutes.

iwantchixx · 03-19-2012, 11:00 PM

Honestly? I was submitting to about 80 tubes using an auto submitter with 5:00 clips, hardly nothing.

Started submitting to just a hand select few while paying special attention to giving longer and better descriptions with 10:00+ clips that show all positions of the action and it skyrocketed to around 1:250 from what I could track. Of course that could just be because our content speaks for itself but it still leads me to believe there is actually money in tubes from a submitters point of view.

Make the videos look full, use a type-in page that mimics the tour, update it every week. Fill that mimicked tour with 5 minute hosted FLVs for a few dozen girls in update order (newest to older). Put page links on bottom such as "Page 1, 2, 3" etc. Link those to the sponsor's tour. Also add join now button leading to sponsor's join page, "members area" button leading to sponsor's join page and "more girls" button leading to sponsor's tour page.

Keep in mind too, even if you submit to countless tubes that make no sales, most allow backlinks. Those backlinks are gold. Trust me. Use them. Also, even if nobody buys anything when they type your domain in right now, it shows traffic to your site if you are optimizing it and using analytics. Give them something to chew on to keep them on your site for as long as possible. Your page will benefit from it in time. It doesn't happen overnight but it does benefit you in other ways.

Keep trying.. don't give up. Traffic is traffic, just use some of these tips to monetize it and keep tweaking until you get it right.

If the sponsor is using nats check to see if you can put links with each girl's update on your mimicked tour to the corresponding girl's tour page (if they have them). I believe you can do this with most ccbill sponsors too (double check first though).

iwantchixx · 03-19-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shake

I'm guessing they head back to the tube when they see it's a paysite...

That's why you gotta give them something to chew on when they get to the type-in page. Something that will keep them there.

Cherry7 · 03-20-2012, 06:08 AM

We are very surprised to be getting sales and good ratios from a tube site, 600:1

Django · 03-20-2012, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Honestly? I was submitting to about 80 tubes using an auto submitter with 5:00 clips, hardly nothing.

Started submitting to just a hand select few while paying special attention to giving longer and better descriptions with 10:00+ clips that show all positions of the action and it skyrocketed to around 1:250 from what I could track. Of course that could just be because our content speaks for itself but it still leads me to believe there is actually money in tubes from a submitters point of view.

Make the videos look full, use a type-in page that mimics the tour, update it every week. Fill that mimicked tour with 5 minute hosted FLVs for a few dozen girls in update order (newest to older). Put page links on bottom such as "Page 1, 2, 3" etc. Link those to the sponsor's tour. Also add join now button leading to sponsor's join page, "members area" button leading to sponsor's join page and "more girls" button leading to sponsor's tour page.

Keep in mind too, even if you submit to countless tubes that make no sales, most allow backlinks. Those backlinks are gold. Trust me. Use them. Also, even if nobody buys anything when they type your domain in right now, it shows traffic to your site if you are optimizing it and using analytics. Give them something to chew on to keep them on your site for as long as possible. Your page will benefit from it in time. It doesn't happen overnight but it does benefit you in other ways.

Keep trying.. don't give up. Traffic is traffic, just use some of these tips to monetize it and keep tweaking until you get it right.

If the sponsor is using nats check to see if you can put links with each girl's update on your mimicked tour to the corresponding girl's tour page (if they have them). I believe you can do this with most ccbill sponsors too (double check first though).

Thanks for info

MichaelP · 03-20-2012, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Honestly? I was submitting to about 80 tubes using an auto submitter with 5:00 clips, hardly nothing.

Started submitting to just a hand ... ccbill sponsors too (double check first though).

Excellent read, TXS for sharing

Nicky · 03-20-2012, 07:11 AM

Like iwantchixx says above longer clips and better editing is working much better than just 5min cut from a scene clips.

DaCaptain · 03-20-2012, 07:28 AM

My tube site, Debauchery dot com, closed 1:1,625 of traffic sent to affiliates last year.

MarkDeus · 03-20-2012, 08:10 AM

Tubes DO convert. I'm not gonna give specific ratios, but whoever gets 1:60k should probably review his whole content and the frequency of his updates. No one does that bad on PornerBros.

You guys needs to stop spending time taking into equation the userbase that do not and will not buy your content, and concentrate on showing the best you've got to those willing to flip out their wallets.

Most of my best-selling sponsors have an active presence on the site, and show vids of approx 7 minutes with a little bit of everything. 5 minutes is great(random cut is better)

a lot of our sponsors do 1:1000 without problems. Some even fall in the 1:500-600, or even less.
iwantchixx: Send me your stuff, we'll make it convert.

Edit: Gay stuff converts really good. That's why we have a huge surprise coming soon. This week if everything goes well.

porno jew · 03-20-2012, 08:14 AM

someone post an example of what an ideal 5-6 min video would be that would convert.

ilnjscb · 03-20-2012, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Honestly? I was submitting to about 80 tubes using an auto submitter with 5:00 clips, hardly nothing.

Started submitting to just a hand select few while paying special attention to giving longer and better descriptions with 10:00+ clips that show all positions of the action and it skyrocketed to around 1:250 from what I could track. Of course that could just be because our content speaks for itself but it still leads me to believe there is actually money in tubes from a submitters point of view.

Make the videos look full, use a type-in page that mimics the tour, update it every week. Fill that mimicked tour with 5 minute hosted FLVs for a few dozen girls in update order (newest to older). Put page links on bottom such as "Page 1, 2, 3" etc. Link those to the sponsor's tour. Also add join now button leading to sponsor's join page, "members area" button leading to sponsor's join page and "more girls" button leading to sponsor's tour page.

Keep in mind too, even if you submit to countless tubes that make no sales, most allow backlinks. Those backlinks are gold. Trust me. Use them. Also, even if nobody buys anything when they type your domain in right now, it shows traffic to your site if you are optimizing it and using analytics. Give them something to chew on to keep them on your site for as long as possible. Your page will benefit from it in time. It doesn't happen overnight but it does benefit you in other ways.

Keep trying.. don't give up. Traffic is traffic, just use some of these tips to monetize it and keep tweaking until you get it right.

If the sponsor is using nats check to see if you can put links with each girl's update on your mimicked tour to the corresponding girl's tour page (if they have them). I believe you can do this with most ccbill sponsors too (double check first though).

The bolded part above, can you elaborate please?

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Originally Posted by porno jew

someone post an example of what an ideal 5-6 min video would be that would convert.

Added please

Cherry7 · 03-20-2012, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

someone post an example of what an ideal 5-6 min video would be that would convert.

Where is the evidence that longer clips are better?

We get more traffic from the 1 minute clips we have posted than the 15 minutes...

lucas131 · 03-20-2012, 10:07 AM

1:8 icecreams but looking forward for olympics

iwantchixx · 03-20-2012, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

The bolded part above, can you elaborate please?

Added please

The watermark URL on the video. If your sponsor allows it, remove their watermark and put up your own. A very simple easy to remember attractive url. 13-14 point and just black text at bottom corner. Very simple. This is where the bulk of your traffic will come from.

iwantchixx · 03-20-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PornerBros

iwantchixx: Send me your stuff, we'll make it convert.

Signed up but upload disabled. We have a bunch of hosted FLV clips in our program if that's what you'd prefer.

porno jew · 03-20-2012, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Where is the evidence that longer clips are better?

We get more traffic from the 1 minute clips we have posted than the 15 minutes...

there was a study released last year.

Cherry7 · 03-20-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

there was a study released last year.

Which university?

porno jew · 03-20-2012, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7

Which university?

clarkson.

PowerCum · 03-20-2012, 04:03 PM

Full scenes --> 1:250
Sponsor provided 5 minute clips --> 0:5000

Personally I don't care about the sponsor provided clips because they are just a filler while the full scenes are being encoded and uploaded to the servers... Meanwhile google indexes the pages and the SEO guy can do his work.

stevemib · 04-20-2012, 07:00 PM

I own a small outsource center and one of our girls has been doing tube submits for a sponsor and all his sites for almost 3 years now. He pays us $600+/month so that tells me he is still making some bank.

On our own affiliate submits we have one sponsor we are @ 1:333, another 1:350, another 1:800 and two others are ofer 1,000's lol. Just dropped them and looking for some fetish stuff now, preferable with ccbill or paxum.

signupdamnit · 04-20-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PornerBros

Edit: Gay stuff converts really good. That's why we have a huge surprise coming soon. This week if everything goes well.

I wonder why gay converts really well compared to straight? Could it be that.....aw hell. Never mind. Sigh.

black1000 · 04-21-2012, 02:02 AM

1:340000058

BIGTYMER · 04-21-2012, 02:09 AM

Porn isn't dead afterall.

03-19-2012, 09:29 PM	#1
demon100 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,203	what are normal tube concersion ratios these days Hi i sent tube clips with watermarks. I get descent traffic but no sales . What are the ratios these days? 1:300 1:1000? Thanks

03-19-2012, 10:14 PM	#3
shake frc Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bitcoin wallet Posts: 4,663	I'm guessing they head back to the tube when they see it's a paysite... __________________ Crazy fast VPS for $10 a month. Try with $20 free credit

03-19-2012, 11:00 PM	#6
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Honestly? I was submitting to about 80 tubes using an auto submitter with 5:00 clips, hardly nothing. Started submitting to just a hand select few while paying special attention to giving longer and better descriptions with 10:00+ clips that show all positions of the action and it skyrocketed to around 1:250 from what I could track. Of course that could just be because our content speaks for itself but it still leads me to believe there is actually money in tubes from a submitters point of view. Make the videos look full, use a type-in page that mimics the tour, update it every week. Fill that mimicked tour with 5 minute hosted FLVs for a few dozen girls in update order (newest to older). Put page links on bottom such as "Page 1, 2, 3" etc. Link those to the sponsor's tour. Also add join now button leading to sponsor's join page, "members area" button leading to sponsor's join page and "more girls" button leading to sponsor's tour page. Keep in mind too, even if you submit to countless tubes that make no sales, most allow backlinks. Those backlinks are gold. Trust me. Use them. Also, even if nobody buys anything when they type your domain in right now, it shows traffic to your site if you are optimizing it and using analytics. Give them something to chew on to keep them on your site for as long as possible. Your page will benefit from it in time. It doesn't happen overnight but it does benefit you in other ways. Keep trying.. don't give up. Traffic is traffic, just use some of these tips to monetize it and keep tweaking until you get it right. If the sponsor is using nats check to see if you can put links with each girl's update on your mimicked tour to the corresponding girl's tour page (if they have them). I believe you can do this with most ccbill sponsors too (double check first though). Last edited by iwantchixx; 03-19-2012 at 11:07 PM.. Reason: more info

03-20-2012, 06:08 AM	#8
Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	We are very surprised to be getting sales and good ratios from a tube site, 600:1 __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

03-20-2012, 07:11 AM	#11
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,046	Like iwantchixx says above longer clips and better editing is working much better than just 5min cut from a scene clips. __________________ Hardlinks and blog posts available on a popular blog with DR 43 and over 3000 referring domains. gfynicky @ gmail.com

03-19-2012, 10:21 PM	#4
sizz Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 42	Been a while since I was in the tube site biz but a number I real was 60:70,000. 1:1000 if you are doing ok.

03-19-2012, 10:37 PM	#5
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,160	I have no idea what the straight ratios are, but on the gay side, submitting is totally worth it, as is having your own tube. 5 minutes is the new 2 minutes, but with good editing you don't give too much away, even in five minutes.

03-20-2012, 07:28 AM	#12
DaCaptain Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the South. Posts: 795	My tube site, Debauchery dot com, closed 1:1,625 of traffic sent to affiliates last year. __________________ Email me at jeff at rouge dot net Skype JeffHWalker or ICQ available upon request

03-20-2012, 08:10 AM	#13
MarkDeus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 643	Tubes DO convert. I'm not gonna give specific ratios, but whoever gets 1:60k should probably review his whole content and the frequency of his updates. No one does that bad on PornerBros. You guys needs to stop spending time taking into equation the userbase that do not and will not buy your content, and concentrate on showing the best you've got to those willing to flip out their wallets. Most of my best-selling sponsors have an active presence on the site, and show vids of approx 7 minutes with a little bit of everything. 5 minutes is great(random cut is better) a lot of our sponsors do 1:1000 without problems. Some even fall in the 1:500-600, or even less. iwantchixx: Send me your stuff, we'll make it convert. Edit: Gay stuff converts really good. That's why we have a huge surprise coming soon. This week if everything goes well. __________________ marc@pornerbrosDOTcom marc@givemegayDOTcom ICQ: 631-877-938 Resistance is futile. Lower your domains and surrender your scripts. Prepare to be assimilated Last edited by MarkDeus; 03-20-2012 at 08:13 AM..

03-20-2012, 08:14 AM	#14
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	someone post an example of what an ideal 5-6 min video would be that would convert.

03-20-2012, 10:07 AM	#17
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	1:8 icecreams but looking forward for olympics

03-20-2012, 04:03 PM	#23
PowerCum CjOverkill Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Woldwide Posts: 1,328	Full scenes --> 1:250 Sponsor provided 5 minute clips --> 0:5000 Personally I don't care about the sponsor provided clips because they are just a filler while the full scenes are being encoded and uploaded to the servers... Meanwhile google indexes the pages and the SEO guy can do his work. __________________ CjOverkill Traffic Trading Script Free, secure and fast traffic trading script. Get your copy now

04-20-2012, 07:00 PM	#24
stevemib Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: American in the PI. Posts: 68	Tube submits conversions I own a small outsource center and one of our girls has been doing tube submits for a sponsor and all his sites for almost 3 years now. He pays us $600+/month so that tells me he is still making some bank. On our own affiliate submits we have one sponsor we are @ 1:333, another 1:350, another 1:800 and two others are ofer 1,000's lol. Just dropped them and looking for some fetish stuff now, preferable with ccbill or paxum.

04-21-2012, 02:02 AM	#26
black1000 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Europe Posts: 122	1:340000058

04-21-2012, 02:09 AM	#27
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Porn isn't dead afterall.