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Old 07-12-2016, 07:25 PM  
dgraves
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He was at Ynot Europe last year. He arbitrated and won the xvid.com domain, xvideos.com better watch out

His technology seems great, I'm not sure why it's never really taken off.

Unfortunately wack a mole is still present with this technology. Knowing the member that downloads and uploads is easy if you're on your game. Remember that it's a criminal organization and they have multiple paying "subscribers" to your site, when you kill one that you find, another takes over.

Once you learn their pattern, you then manipulate what they see/get in an undetectable manner, and they are playing wack a mole trying to get the real goods. In the end it's not worth the effort and they move on to easier fruit to pick.
I'm not sure why they aren't marketing more aggressively in the porn community and when I first spoke with the owner he didn't mention that he already works with some large sites. One large site has been using it successfully so maybe the strategy is to not let surfers know there is a unique code attached to each video they download. For that reason I won't mention the site on here but it's a very well known site. I spoke with the own of the paysite and he said they are currently pursuing several lawsuits against thieves.

There are two schools of thought with security. You have a sign on your front lawn letting people know you have a monitored security system to scare potential thieves away or no sign and a shotgun or big dog inside.

I see a lot of people making comments about price points, making better content, better support etc. but that won't fix the main problem. Offering cheaper memberships will delight thieves. They love discounted porn to increase their profit. I experimented with various price points years ago and found that lower price points and even trials attracted cheap people and thieves. I currently have an extremely low chargeback ratio right now but when I offered a trial and lower price that percentage went up. It shocked me to think that someone would take the time to chargeback $2.99 but that happened quite a bit. My member base grew but sales stayed the same so I decided I'd rather have customers who saw the value in my product than deal with cheap complainers and energy vampires.

We all know content is king and making better content should always be ever producer's goal which in turn make thieves more money because the content will be in higher demand.

The paysite model is horribly structured because there's not much incentive for people to stay long periods of time. They join, rip, cancel, wait for a new batch and repeat. It would make more sense for paysites to offer a lower price for stream only and provide the option for members to buy each video if desired. Similar to iTunes rent or buy. This will be a tough sale because the structure has been in place for a long time and customers will get pissed off that they have to buy the videos they want to keep but the lower stream only price might offset that.

I have several Clips4Sale stores that I mainly use to drive traffic to my paysites but on a few occasions I added clips that aren't available on the paysites. They sold very well on the clips store and I never found them on a tube or file locker. Thieves are cheap and won't spend money buying individual clips but legit fans will.

I don't think any business based off theft can last but I'm not holding my breath for a change anytime soon. If the movie and music industry can't change the laws then there's not a lot of hope for adult to drive that change.

Catching thieves using tracking software can be a slow process but thieves have communities where I'm sure they warn others of trouble so the yard sign or shotgun approach might keep them away from your content and move along to something easier. This is a long shot but with some organization, site owners could even form a community or database containing the info on known thieves with a "most wanted list".
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